tonight is their 20th anniversary. >> when george h.w. bush was getting a little impatient with the watch, that was a blunder, and replayed over and over, so maybe get the watch out of the way -- >> first lady is giving him debate tip brs. >> i definitely think have you to kind of be mindful that everybody's watching every moment. they'll go back and find the moment. i thought that watch thing, right -- you have to see where you are, pace yourself. but if you are caught on camera -- >> a sigh. >> you think it's about high-minded substance? how many times do you check your watch? >> it's about both, don't you. >> reptile brain, 80% of it. i think -- i think about the debates you remember. it's reptile brain moments, conflict, it's a witty one-liner -- >> there have been great moments where they eventually lost the debate. >> did you sigh, did you look at your watch, did you look sweaty against john f. kennedy. that's what we talk about. >> and your responses. i don't believe jim lehr will allow candidates to throw stuff out there, not offe